Hi, I have just been diagnosed with MN after neary 6 years of burning pain in both feet whilst doing long walks. I notice no pain in my day to day life which involved alot of time on my feet, but as soon as I go on a long walk ie. over 4kms the burning starts to kick in and is very very painful the further I walk. Have tried numerous types of walking boots, sox, orthotics - at great expense I might add and found nothing to really help - other than stopping taking off my boots and massaging my feet for 5-10 min and continuing.
Had a cortizone injection in my R foot yesterday and prompted me to look further - my foot feels like it has been hit by a dropped brick today so hope that improves. I have ordered the Serrapeptase 80,oooIU so will keep posts up with my progress.

Chris

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Hi Chris,

If you have been diagnosed with MN, then it is important not to walk too much, especially whilst addressing it with Serrapeptase.

Whilst I am 100% better now, I have always been careful not to walk great distances. It can become rather like your 'weak point' if you know what I mean.

Sometimes someone's health condition can improve through diet, reducing stress levels, or by other means...but can re-emerge when at a low ebb. By this I mean that physically, if you put more strain on the MN whilst it is trying to heal, then you are not helping it. Peronally, I would advise sensible shoes and not too much walking for a bit.

Ann

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Well, it's been a while since I have updated my conditions. For me, Serrapeptase did not seem to work unless I needed to take more over a longer period of time. (I used about 3 bottles (90 tabs, 80,000 IU per bottle) over a six week span. That was back in Feb and March. April and May was not too bad for my feet, the pain was not there as much but I was sick and tired of it. I just went to the podiatrist at the beginning of June and asked him if I could have surgery. He said not for a long time, because there can be a lot of complications with the surgery which could hurt me even more. So he suggested another cortisone shot. I got one in both feet this time since they were both hurting me equally. But before that, I did three run of 2 plus miles and my feet did not hurt at all. So I'm hoping that these cortisone shots will put me on the right side.

I also told the doctor that I was not comfortable with the shots but he assured me that with my shots spread out I would be fine. His personal experience has seen almost 90% of his patients cured with the cortisone. I also got special orthodic inserts for my shoes and the "orthodic guy" was very smart (ie. doctor) and assured me that with the cortisone and the inserts I should have no trouble beating this.

I also want to clarify, that the Serrapeptase did not "seem" to work. But I did experience a lot less pain the few months after I finished up my Serrapeptase. My initial plan for now is to wait till August and I going to see how my feet are feeling and I will probably get another supply of Serrapeptase (just because I feel like it can still help me) and do another 6 weeks and see what happens.

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Thank you for the up-date Landon

It does feel to me however, that like I said previously, you cannot run and walk great lengths whilst trying to heal this condition.

Whilst sport is obviously something you love, like with any other health condition, once it encompasses you, it can become your weak point.

With more serious conditions people have to adapt and change their lifestyles. In this instance, you need to walk less and certainly not go running. I am still very careful and this may have something to do with my amazing recovery.

I hope this helps!

With all good wishes to you..
Ann

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This is very interesting. Since I have been off of Serrapeptase for a few months now, the pain has kind of diminished a little bit. I don't think it is of anything I did. Although I did go to a doctor and he gave me this really cool foot inserts that seem to help a little bit. So I'm basically saying heck with the mild pain and running. So far running and playing soccer on my feet haven't really worsen the conditions at all. So I have no idea what to expect. It's just a little irritating sitting at home and feeling tingling and some slight pain every once in a while by just sitting down.

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Can I do this myself, I cannot afford any more medical bills...I have no insurance and I've paid out $20,000 after a bicycle accident and got a TWO morton's neuroma as icing on the cake, please describe the procedure to put it back into its groove PLEASE.

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Hi. I had read this post a while back, but never commented. I did try serrapeptase and my Morton's neuroma went away. I cannot conclude that if I did not try serrapeptase it wouldn't have gone away, or that it sped up the recovery process.

From my experience, the people who develop chronic Morton's neuroma are the people who did not give their body a chance to heal. I've chatted with many suffers, some cured and some in some serious pain. Those that got better tended to be younger and treated their feet like pampered little princesses during the recovery effort. My MN went away in 6 weeks from the time i let my body try to heal itself or 8 weeks since original onset. I tried serrapeptase 4 weeks into that recovery time and took 120,000-180,000 IU/day for 2 weeks. I stopped because I developed a cough and total body soreness...which i found out are known side effects. The cough is particular worrisome, because it can be a sign of serrapeptase induced pneumonia onset, also a known and documented condition.

I also noticed that those who failed to develop chronic MN were people who deduced to cause of the problem that started the neural inflammation to begin with. Mine was my running form. I tended to land on the outside of my forefoot and roll in. Also, my shoes may have been a little too tight, but I think the footstrike was the major cause. I switched to midfoot neutral strike and just ran a half marathon, which was 2 months from onset of MN.

My message to those who have recently found out they had MN: please don't be brash and think you can run through this. It may lead to something that your body can't heal, which will end in surgery. Your body can heal itself, but you have to let it. Try conservative treatment first...maybe buy an insert as well...and above all stay off your feet as much as possible (I found that when i did have to walk, if I clenched my feet it didn't hurt as bad). If that doesn't work after a couple months, then consider more advanced treatments

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I have just been diagnosed with bilateral Morton's neuromas.
I have had Rheumatoid Arthritis for just over a year and my foot symptoms started at the same time, so I thought it was the RA.
I have ordered some serrapeptase after reading about it on this site. So I am hoping it will help cure mine. Will keep you informed of how it goes. I don't fancy the injections or surgery.
Lee

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Hello Lee,

I am glad you are going to try the Serrapeptase. It took 6 weeks for mine to disappear, but I did continue for the 2 months Robert Redfern recommended. The dosage then was 40,000 i.u. so you would obviously halve it now that it is sold as 80,000 i.u. I believe that in treating a health condition you should address the whole body too, in this case by resting your foot as much as possible and addressing the R.A. also. I wonder if this may be helpful that I put together for R.A. It is too lengthy to copy and paste all of it - but gives some ideas:


RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS

1. Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B 5) 500 mg. 1 x twice per day. This is especially important for R.A. and vital for the production of steroids in the adrenal glands. Also known as Calcium Pantothenate.

2. Evening Primrose Oil/Fish Oils. These supply essential fatty acids that increase production of anti-inflammatory prostaglandins. They help to control arthritis pain and inflammation.

Many people with arthritis have high levels of copper and iron in their bodies. Histidine is good for removing excess metals from the body and can be found in rice and rye. Eat more sulfur-containing foods such as, asparagus, eggs, garlic and onions. Sulfur is needed for the repair and rebuilding of bone, cartilage, and connective tissue and aids in the absorption of calcium.

Reduce the amount of fat in your diet. Do not consume milk, dairy products or red meat. Avoid caffeine, citrus fruits, paprika, salt, tobacco and everything that contains sugar.

Avoid the nightshade vegetables (peppers, eggplant, tomatoes, white potatoes). These foods contain a substance called Solanine, to which some people, particularly those suffering with Arthritis, are highly sensitive. Solanine interferes with enzymes in the muscles, and may cause pain and discomfort.

Do not take iron supplements, or a multivitamin containing iron. Iron is suspected of being involved in pain, swelling, and joint destruction. Consume iron in foods instead. Good sources include broccoli, brussels sprouts, cauliflower, fish, lima beans, peas, apricots and endive.

Extracted from ‘Food-Your Miracle Medicine by Jean Carper

I WAS CRIPPLED BY MY CHEESE CRAVINGS

‘Mrs X , a 38-year old had been riddled with rheumatoid arthritis for 11 years. The joints of her arms, legs and hips were severely inflamed and swollen. She had no hand grip to speak of and she could barely move without excruciating pain. She was extremely fatigued and stiff for several hours every day.

Nothing helped. She had already been treated to all of modern science’s heavy artillery – salicylates, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory agents, gold, penicillamine, prednisone, even blood exchanges. They brought little or no relief; in fact, their toxic side-effects made her sicker. Then, her rheumatologists at Hammersmith Hospital in London began to enquire about her cheese cravings........


(I would not recommend taking any supplements, or changing your diet without first consulting your health practitioner who would know your health history)

Ann

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Hi Designeer,
I will try and alert Jon to your question, as I am not sure he is aware you have written


Patrick - thanks for your comments! How many did you take of the 80,000 i.u. per day? Also, I wonder does Robert Redfern know about coughing as a possible side-effect? I have never heard of this. He has a few websites, but I think this is the best one to ask any questions, and he will reply to them. www.serrapeptaseinfo.co.uk

Ann

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I have answered designer privately, as far as side effects of the serrapeptase is concerned, yes I have read about those as well, however, only on medical sites, so I gave it no credibility, as most medical sites rubbish anything natural. I would be interested Ann if Redfern knows about it.

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Hi Ann

How would someone accumulate the high levels of these metals in the body without knowing?

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Hi John,
It may be an idea to put it by Robert Redfern, and see what he says...

I suppose, Helen, there would be various symptoms the body would show, such as headaches etc., and all the symptoms related to excess copper and iron. Many people probably don't have a clue what their everyday health symptoms are caused by, arthritis included.

Foresight, (pre-conceptual care association), use hair mineral analysis for their patients with fertility problems and invariably zinc, selenium and manganese are low, but lead, copper and calcium can be high. They would not recommend getting pregnant with low zinc status since it can result in miscarriages.

'Mental And Elemental Nutrients' is an excellent book on deficiencies and excess minerals and metals.

Ann

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Hi Ann,
Thanks for your reply, and suggestions re RA. I am on prednisone, sulfasalazine and Arava, and have tried to get off prednisone four times now and have had to go back on it in order to function normally. I am a midwife so am on my feet a lot, and this doesn't do them any favours, wish I could find a sit down job, that would help.
Lee

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Ann wrote:

Hi Designeer,
I will try and alert Jon to your question, as I am not sure he is aware you have written


Patrick - thanks for your comments! How many did you take of the 80,000 i.u. per day? Also, I wonder does Robert Redfern know about coughing as a possible side-effect? I have never heard of this. He has a few websites, but I think this is the best one to ask any questions, and he will reply to them. www.serrapeptaseinfo.co.uk

Ann

not much research has been done on serrapeptase that's been published in reputable medical journals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11019569 - 1 reference to serrapeptase induced pneumonia

I e-mailed RR, but never received a reply. I didn't buy it from the site he listed. I got it from a local nutrition store. They were 60,000 IU tablets so i took 1 morningish and 1-2 right before bed without eating 2 hours before and not eating at least 1 hour aftwards. (http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1871/ link to product website).

Most site recommend 30,000 IU/day for acute injury and 10,000-20,000 IU for maintenance. However, I wanted to hit the MN hard so I followed closer to RR's recommendation.

If you google serrapeptase side-effects you will find many references, but I didn't research further to find reputable sources. I knew what I was feeling and symptoms cleared rapidly after discontinuing use.

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I have just begun the serapeptase, B6, circumin regimen and have great hope it will help me avoid surgery. I had very good success with acupressure and TENS but this last bout didn't respond. My life has been so affected by these neuromas in my foot - walking is painful, exercise nearly impossible (goodbye to running and tennis). I am also trying the magnesium oil. I will report back weekly.

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Hi Liz,

I hope Serrapeptase works for you also, together with the additional supplements. Don't forget to go easy for a couple of months, so no running or walking too much. I think this is very important to help the healing process.

I even wore trainers mostly for about 6 weeks, which I found very odd as I am so used to shoes!

Good luck and I wish you well..
Ann

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Hi - I have suffered with pain at the base of my toes and into the ball of my foot for over 12 months now and today it has got so painful I came home from work and typed in 'toe pain' in to google. Well I'm not one to self diagnose BUT MN sounds exactly like the pain I am suffering! It's isolated between the 3rd and 4th toe on my left foot (have slight symptoms on right foot but not as bad). My 4th toe feels like i have an elastic band tied very tight around the base of it causing numbness and tingling. During the day (I am a chef so on my feet all day) my toes and front of my foot get more and more sore to the point that i am almost in tears by the end of the day.
Where do I go to get a firm diagnosis? The doctor? podiatrist? or somewhere else?
thanks

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Hi Mandy,

First of all you should see your doctor, and he may refer you to a chiropodist. If the wait is too long, then it is best to book a private appointment with a reputable one, who will refer you to see a specialist.

The first chiropodist I saw had no idea what it was and sold me an inner sole, but another one knew immediately and referred me to hospital.

Good luck!
Ann

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Hi,
I have been trying Serrapeptase for the last 4 months on a high dose of 3 x 3 per day after being diagnosed with MN a while ago but it doesnt seem to have made any difference at all. Has anyone else experienced this as I may be doing something wrong.

Thanks

Lisa

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