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 7-02-2007 02:15:33 PM
Andy
Andy
Administrator
From: United Kingdom

I've just found out about a new documentary film being released in the next 12 months or so. This looks really good!

http://www.timeofthesixthsun.com

Synopsis:

Time of the Sixth Sun is a multi-platform film project about the awakening and transformation of global consciousness, a witnessing of these times and the huge potential for change in the world …… in the way we relate to it and the way we live in it.

In Time of the Sixth Sun, our protagonist, street poet Paradox, guides us on a quest to discover the meaning of 2012. Civilizations throughout the ages have indicated through ancient calendars and visions that 2012 will be a pinnacle time in the evolution of mankind. In the West, many are noticing an increase in life’s synchronicities and are experiencing time as speeding up. Scientists accept that global warming is a reality. Increasingly the world is seeking answers and the clock is ticking.

We have been scouring the planet to speak to Tribal Elders, Wisdom Keepers, New Scientists, Spiritual Teachers and those offering Divine Guidance on what they have to say about these awesome times.

Speakers include:
Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Credo Mutwa, Don Alverto Taxo, Maestro Tlakaelel, Lynne Franks, Dr.Maseru Emoto, HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Geoff Stray, Dr. Manjir Samanta-Laughton, Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev, Carl Johan Calleman, Tom Kenyon, Carla Rueckert and many more.

There’s never been more information at our disposal. From ancient tribal wisdom, Religious texts, myth, prophecy, new sciences, spiritual teachings and divine guidance. In the end, we all have to make the journey within and decide what is truth for each of us individually.

What tools do we need to progress in our spiritual evolution? And if we are the creators of our reality, what is our highest vision for the future? Rather than our downfall, is 2012 not our greatest epiphany?

‘Life is Film
Man is Actor
God is Director’
(written on the back of a truck in India!)

Ask most people in the street about 2012 and they’ll mutter something about the Olympics in Britain. Yes....and....what else does it mean to you?....this usually is met by a blank look because the majority of people don’t have a clue what awaits us in coming years. This pivotal time in the history of mankind is merely six years away and still NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT !! Why not?

…..and so begins our ‘journey of awakening’. We listen to the myths & prophesies of the Wisdom Keepers from many traditions and the possibilities they present to transform our lives in the countdown to 2012.

What is the truth behind earth changes? What are our sustainable choices for food, housing, energy and community living in the future? How do we link heaven and earth, with the creative and spiritual in our everyday lives? How can we be divine beings in human form? How do we learn to open up our dormant telepathic abilities? Who are the ‘new kids on the block’? Are they the face of a new, highly evolved race, the grandmothers & grandfathers of the future? Does the return of the Divine Feminine herald a return to partnership society bringing balance and harmony back into our relationship with the Earth? Are we moving from Gaia to Cosmic citizenship? These are some of the questions posed along the way.

Sometimes magician, sometimes jester, Paradox challenges our belief systems on our quest for truth. He reveals the power of positive thought creation, constantly reflecting the ‘bigger picture’ and daring us to glimpse into the future to see how we can affect it by the choices we make.

‘Time of the Sixth Sun’ is a unique docudrama, entertaining, informative, accessible, visually rich and emotionally satisfying. Shot in fabulous locations with a stunning soundtrack, it promises to be one of the cinema highlights for 2007/2008. The DVD set has many bonus features including a Satsang Sofa, Prophecy Oracle, Chanelling Room, 2012 Toolkit plus a Website Commitment for the next six years which is dedicated to recording the 2012 celebrations of indigenous communities, guaranteeing an evergreen life for the project .

View the trailer

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 7-02-2007 04:32:13 PM
Trinity
Trinity
From: United Kingdom

Thank you Andy.

When I goto the 6th sun website, I can only get sound on the trailer clip. Any ideas why there are no images?

Trinity
x

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 7-02-2007 06:40:29 PM
Andy
Andy
Administrator
From: United Kingdom

Hi Trinity.

I'm not too sure to be honest. It's a flash movie so make sure you have the latest version of Flash installed which is Version 9. Download Flash

Also which browser are you using? If you're not using Firefox I highly recommend it Get Firefox

Hope that helps!

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 7-02-2007 10:17:39 PM
Neil
Neil
From: United Kingdom

Namaste all,

Am I the only one who thinks that nothing is going to happen in 2012? That it is going to be the biggest anti-climax since Y2K? That it is largely a bunch of hype and wishy-washy dreaming?

As much as I would like it to be true, to me the whole notion of any significant rise in the level of global consciousness seems like complete pie in the sky dreaming. I've tried looking into what was originally said/written about 2012, before it got hijacked by the new-age, but I've not been able to find anything with details.

I could see how global developments, namely large scale wars, vast destruction from war and environmental events, a serious decline in social freedoms and civil liberties, all could be a catalyst for resurgence in the human spirit. But I believe it would have to happen on such an enormous scale. For example, half the Middle East would have to be destroyed in nuclear war. Which, granted is a potential with the energies the Bush admin and the Neo-cons are putting out!

Beyond such massive events and the death of millions to shock people into awakening (to a very limited degree) I honestly think that humanity will be asleep as ever, oblivious to the pain of their neighbour and caught up in all the BS that they are caught in now, if not more so than ever. I seriously doubt we are going to witness any broad spiritual renaissance.

Om Shanti
Neil

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 7-02-2007 10:29:32 PM
Neil
Neil
From: United Kingdom
Andy wrote:
How do we learn to open up our dormant telepathic abilities? Who are the ‘new kids on the block’? Are they the face of a new, highly evolved race, the grandmothers & grandfathers of the future?.... Are we moving from Gaia to Cosmic citizenship? These are some of the questions posed along the way.

A poem from Hafiz which expresses my 2 cents worth (for what it is worth!)


What Should We Do about that Moon ?

A wine bottle fell from a wagon
And broke open in a field.


That night a hundred beetles and all their cousins
Gathered

And did some serious binge drinking.

They even found some seed husks nearby
And began to play them like drums and whirl.
This made God very happy.

Then the 'night candle' rose into the sky
And one drunk creature, laying down his instrument
Said to his friend - for no apparent
Reason,

"What should we do about that moon?"

Seems to Hafiz
Most everyone has laid aside the music

Tackling such profoundly useless
Questions.



From: 'The Gift - Poems by Hafiz the Great Sufi Master'
translations by Daniel Ladinsky

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 8-02-2007 08:51:10 AM
Trinity
Trinity
From: United Kingdom

Thank you Andy, will explore further.
p.s. Of course :) I have firefox...

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 8-02-2007 08:59:08 AM
Trinity
Trinity
From: United Kingdom

Hi Neil,

Can only speak for myself here: I personally don't hold a judgement either way on 2012, although I deeply sense that we are in a remarkable time of 'transition'.... that much I cannot ignore. I think it can be dangerous to form set views and opinions about things. Rather listen to the space between the words.

Awesome Hafiz poem. Ahhhh heavens nectar.

In Love and Light
Trinity

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 8-02-2007 09:44:40 AM
Neil
Neil
From: United Kingdom
Trinity wrote:
Hi Neil,

Can only speak for myself here: I personally don't hold a judgement either way on 2012, although I deeply sense that we are in a remarkable time of 'transition'.... that much I cannot ignore. I think it can be dangerous to form set views and opinions about things. Rather listen to the space between the words.

Namaste Trinity,

Hope you are doing well. What kind of transition do you think we are in? What are we in and where do you think/feel that we are collectively heading?

I'd love for a massive awakening to occur in 2012, or even tomorrow, but at present I don't think it is a realistic potential and from what I can gather things don't work that way. Renaissances occur every few hundred years, but even these don't alter the consciousness of the masses. For people to say 2012 is going to be a new dawn seems to me kind of misleading and can lead to negating the now. How many times in the course of history have we heard such things about supposed new eras? Holding the notion that humanity as a whole is going to awaken from its slumber seems like complete folly to me. Awakening seems to happen drip by drip, and what we are speaking of happening in 2012 would have to be a tsunami.

With all the orders I send out from my website and ebay shop I include a free bookmark that I make myself. Normally these are Gandhi bookmarks and on one side there is the quote "Be the change you want to see in the world." If people want a new world start striving to embody all the higher living that you think that would include right now, become it yourself, let it be your life. Lead the way by personal example. I know many of the people here do, but I bet more don't.

My views on this, as with many (probably most) things in life are constantly open to reassessment, so if signs of grand awakening happen I'll be the first to start shouting about them from the roof tops. And I'll do so with a big smile. :) Views and opinions are fine, since we need them to operate in the world (just depends what the foundation of them are!), but yes set views, views and opinions that are not open to being challenged or re-examined are a dangerous thing.

Andy wrote:
This pivotal time in the history of mankind is merely six years away and still NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT !! Why not?

Well at least three of us are discussing it now :)

Om Shanti
Neil

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 9-02-2007 12:32:03 PM
Asif
Asif
Moderator
From: United Kingdom
Neil wrote:

Well at least three of us are discussing it now :)

Om Shanti
Neil

...and many more are reading with great interest.

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 9-02-2007 02:32:08 PM
Trinity
Trinity
From: United Kingdom

Dear Neil,

I am inclined to agree with you on many fronts. Whilst I feel it important not to hold preconceived ideas about what will or will not happen, there are somethings that cannot be ignored.

I'd happily join you in celebration if there were to be a mass global awakening, shift in consciousness. I too know many people who are making compassionate choices are aligned with higher consciousness, yet, I see the vast majority are living behind a thick veil of illusion. The plight of Mother Earth has been long ignored. Even now in the dawn of global catastrophy, few people are actually REALLY making any significant changes.

Mother Earth has been poisoned and abused (to put it mildy) by choices that (as far as I see) have not been harmonised with her. Now a fever is arising to shake of the offending invasion (mankind). Radical action seems necessary. What will happen remains to be seen. Where we shall go... who will go 'where'... are huge topics of discussion. I prefer to look within for the answer.

Love
Trinity

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 9-02-2007 03:46:24 PM
Neil
Neil
From: United Kingdom

Namaste Trinity,

I hope you and yours are well.

Trinity wrote:
I'd happily join you in celebration if there were to be a mass global awakening, shift in consciousness. I too know many people who are making compassionate choices are aligned with higher consciousness, yet, I see the vast majority are living behind a thick veil of illusion. The plight of Mother Earth has been long ignored. Even now in the dawn of global catastrophy, few people are actually REALLY making any significant changes.

There are a thousand horrors taking place today. People dying in their tens of thousands every single from causes which could be treated. If this isn't awful enough for people to get off their backside, I don't know what is. Perhaps it is going to have to be knocking our door before we take notice and act upon it.

Trinity wrote:
Mother Earth has been poisoned and abused (to put it mildy) by choices that (as far as I see) have not been harmonised with her. Now a fever is arising to shake of the offending invasion (mankind).

That is indeed putting it mildly. We have raped our own mother. The history of western culture post industrial revolution is worse than a Greek drama.

Trinity wrote:
Radical action seems necessary. What will happen remains to be seen.

I see things the same. What appears to need to happen and what will might be two different things. Time will tell.

Trinity wrote:
Where we shall go... who will go 'where'... are huge topics of discussion. I prefer to look within for the answer.

I whole-heartedly agree with looking within for the answer. This is the core of my life. I think all the quotes I have up on the about neil page speak of this. Yet I do also think that from the inner search will spring forth an external action, when appropriate. It all depends on the needs of the moment.

I think though I should clarify something, as I feel I might be misrepresenting myself and opening my words up to being misinterpreted. This form of communication is quite amazing, but it is very easy for one's words to be taken in a light that was not intended. I know I can be pretty intense and full on at times when in these forums. But this is not with the intent of being argumentative, instead, it is honestly arising from a place of love and genuine compassion.

I think the potential for misinterpretation arises because of the myth that many cultures have (including ours) that a spiritual person should always speak in soft flowery gentle words. To me that is utter horseshit! Rather the words should arise in response to the need of the moment. I am interested in truth, both absolute (inner) and relative (outer), and have little wish for small talk or humdrum conversation. Time is too precious to waste. So nine times out of ten when in forums such as this I'll fiercely approach a topic aiming to cut right to the heart of the matter in the spirit of a ruthless exploration for truth. I hope my words are taken in this context.

Om Shanti
Neil

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 9-02-2007 07:22:36 PM
Trinity
Trinity
From: United Kingdom

Neil Wrote: "...it is honestly arising from a place of love and genuine compassion."

To me it shows most clearly.

I agree with your last post on all counts.

Trinity

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 12-02-2007 07:37:42 PM
Jay
Jay
From: United Kingdom

Its very clear that you are truly walking your talk with pureness of heart and intergrity Neil,

Jay

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 13-02-2007 10:37:58 PM
Aannsha
Aannsha
From: Australia

Hi guys

Thanks Andy for that information.

I'm open to 2012, not just because of all the 'information' out there, but also because of my own in-formation, that came in the form of a dream I had whilst pregnant. I've posted a link to the page on my website detailing it below:

http://healingtruth.com.au/Future%20Visions/future2.htm

At any rate, I reckon its more important to do our own individual 'bit' right here, right now - whatever that feels like - and in the continuing now moments up until 2012 and that way we will, indeed be directors/actors in our movie, rather than mere spectators.

Cheers,
Aannsha

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 23-02-2007 09:44:01 PM
Jayne
Jayne
Moderator
From: United Kingdom

Thought this article by William Bloom is an interesting angle on this discussion, written for The Cygnus Review.

Dear Friends,

There is an event from when I was nine years old that I have never forgotten. A boy was weeping in the school playground as other boys teased him, sprinkling water on him and making spooky noises. I was told that his family belonged to a religious sect who believed the world was about to end in a great flood. Armageddon. Apocalypse. The sprinkled water thrown by the boys was supposed to be the first drops of the prophesied tidal waves. This was a sad situation.

When I first became involved in new age and holistic spirituality, I myself became totally certain that humanity was living through a time of cosmic importance and dramatic transformation. But I was stopped in my tracks by some history I had to read as part of my mature student’s degree, which taught me that decade by decade throughout history there has always been a group of people claiming that their moment in time was cosmically significant and heralding profound transformation, including the end of life on Earth. These are called millennial movements.

A millennial movement building up steam at the moment is based on the Mayan calendar, which suggests that the December Solstice 2012 will be a cosmically significant event. What will happen in 2012 was never made clear by the Mayans, but it is nevertheless being described by some authors and others as apocalyptic. There are at least 20 books published now on the subject. A 2012 prophetic business is building up.

Now - I absolutely support any movement that gets us to live more harmoniously with our environment. I also support all global meditations and prayers for healing and peace. But I am very uncomfortable with any ideas that stimulate anxiety, hysteria and frozen-in-the-headlights syndrome. What good does that do? Some of you may remember the hysteria that surrounded the millennium bug when people thought that the lack of four digits in Microsoft’s internal calendar software would bring about global disaster. I know several new age luminaries who took to the mountains on 31 December 1999, their cabins and cottages stocked up for the famine and chaos.

* * *

So why is it that people buy into these prophecies?

One strong energetic possibility is that our planet carries the imprint and memory of previous disasters. Just like a house or a room can absorb the moods and vibrations of the people who lived there, which visitors and future owners can feel, so Earth and our collective psyche are also carrying memories. Just pause for a moment and imagine the powerful vibrational imprint of the second world war and holocaust. They are very recent history. So too are the killing fields of Cambodia and the genocides in Europe and Africa. Going further back in history, there have been terrible floods, famines and plagues. There have been great climate changes, such as the ice ages. Civilisations have come and gone. All these are huge events, alive in the energy field of our history. We feel them - and sometimes we channel them.

The energy of these historical happenings floats, in my opinion, like magnetic clouds in the collective psyche of our species and planet. Sometimes, when we are in a particular mood or have a particular attitude, we act like lightening rods and channel the tragic energy of these past events. It is no wonder that some people get caught up, trance-like, almost as if a spell has been cast, in a collective movement of anxiety, paranoia and conspiracy.

The cataclysmic disasters are indeed a reality. They are still alive in the energy field and in our unconscious. But they happened before. They are history and not the future. One of our responsibilities, I suggest, is not to channel, recycle or feed these ancient traumas, but to understand, heal and transform them.

Let us be clear. The Mayans did not interpret the Solstice 2012 event. They only stated that it was significant. What is happening now, at worst, is that some authors, would-be prophets and conspiracy theorists are hanging all kinds of other information on to the 2012 date, peddling their own fears and philosophies, tuning into the disasters of the past and inaccurately asserting that they are the future. We need to steer away from the hissy fit delusions of those who claim that the end of the world is nigh and who create more problems than solutions.

Of course, I may be wrong - but I’m prepared to take bets that looking back from 2020, 2012 will be just another one of those movements whose prophecies were not fulfilled.

* * *

I want to put my energy into a more hopeful interpretation of December Solstice 2012. The actual astronomy of the Mayan calendar is interesting. As I understand it, it points out that a rare and close alignment will take place between Earth, our sun and the core of the Milky Way, our parent galaxy.

Have you ever contemplated the symbolism of the name, the Milky Way? Our galaxy is the nurturing milk of the Cosmic Mother. The idea that the December Solstice 2012 will bring us close to that source is one of healing and hope. What better help could there be for us than to feel the love and nurture of the divine parent?

Readers, of course, are free to make up their own minds, but I am raising my flag here. I don’t really know if 2012 is a significant date or not. If it is, then I choose to interpret it as a sign of hope and I reject any claim that it heralds some kind of Armageddon. We have enough real problems - ecological and social - to solve without getting caught up in the distraction of collective excitability.

Much love, William

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 24-02-2007 12:16:47 AM
John
John
From: United Kingdom

As a Dialectical materialist my position would be that all Idealism projects/imposes its own image on what is ''going to happen''. This is really a presentation of thoughts and fears . For me it is about abstracting from what is emerging in a concrete reality rather than imposing an image .Along with 'general 'laws of motion we can gauge a a general trend and configure some sort of transformation. For example when the rosebud emerges we know it will flower, then it will wither.All laws are grounded in nature and man does not escape this ...though he acts as though he does.

This is why the scientific data in regards Global Warming is so alarming .As for the 'waking' of collective consciousness this takes place for sure as material transformations impact on the psychi at the individual and the collective . The question is really what consciousness change feeds back' into the pot 'so to speak.

On this we only have historical precedent to go on and history would suggest that we ' tend ' to be behind events and so consequently stumble under the illusion it us who are in control of them when really they are in control of us. At best we make some sort of reflex reactions.

However though Planetary crisis may well be upon us our evolutionary journey as a producer with thumb and four finger perhaps is just fulfilling itself . As such are negation comes at a peak of our success. As with Yang into Yin and so on for eternity.Perhaps our collective high point will be the imminent experience of this very event. In the moment of this collective death a higher spiritual journey is born.The Realisation of realisations.

In fact one might argue that spirit will be all that is left.

Having said that a prog the other night left me with some optimism for the future. .It was about ways of pulling out huge amounts of Co2 out of the atmosphere. These are ideas are not star wars but really exist. All they need is the go ahead.

When all is said and done I think I have to agree with Carl in another forum ...whatever ..we have to engage and live the now as the future whatever it is.. is to a large extent predicated on the quality of that.

So for me its not about buying into some conspiracy but rather reading the signals that are there and watch their motion. Be it doom or bloom is not really the point . Idealist thought can be dangerous as we project on to reality our images born of fear rather than blend with its unravelling /its becoming '.What interest me is what 'IS'.

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 25-02-2007 08:45:37 AM
John.Digby
John.Digby
From: United Kingdom

I remember holidaying in the late 70s with a group of friends and we met up with others of the same age. We would sit up nights, putting the world right – well we were 17/18 after all and new everything – when one of out newly formed group explained that he was completely sure that the world would end at the stroke of mid-night of December the 31st 1999.

When I asked him what he would do if he awoke hale and healthy on the 1st of Jan 2000 he looked at me and said, most determinedly “that will never happen”! His “faith” said it could not even be envisaged therefore it will happen. This is the kind of blind faith that the 2012 movement is running on. Another apocalyptic harbinger was Nostra Damus, who prophesies have been twisted and corrupted to fit subsequent events.

It’s all “The Emperors New Clothes” syndrome. A huge swathe of mankind is made up of sheep; followers; subscribers to the current “wisdom” of whoever is the guru ore movement of the day and 2012 is just the latest in along line of hope-born wagons to follow. If you want change (even I would like that) make happen with your positive energy and intentions growing exponentially into a force for good in the cause of mankind and the planet. Be spontaneous, unique, fresh-minded, and original and do it with intention. Start a whole new movement, don’t hitch your wagon to some pipe dream that someone saw in their tea leaves.

Perhaps when we can start a new movement for a new world with new beginnings and new philosophies, we can truly say we are warriors for a NEW AGE!

Oh. By-the-way; if this all culminates around 2012 it will be pure coincidence! (or is there no such thing as conincidence?)

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 23-03-2007 07:22:17 PM
Andy
Andy
Administrator
From: United Kingdom

I just came across another film about 2012

2012 The Odyssey - http://www.2012theodyssey.com/

It looks like it's been showing around the States since January. Has anybody seen this?

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 12-05-2007 09:26:21 PM
Andy
Andy
Administrator
From: United Kingdom

New trailer for Time of the Sixth Sun

Click here

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