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 19-08-2007 10:55:22 AM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Thank you David, for the info and the link. Now I get a broader understanding.

Helen, what you put out so you get back. If you feel people are aggressive, then perhaps people feel you are as well.

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 19-08-2007 11:41:19 AM
Helen
Helen
From: United Kingdom

OK, I'll be off from here then, and take 'my aggression' with me.

Goodbye & luck to all.

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 20-08-2007 02:34:19 AM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Bye

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 20-08-2007 04:33:24 PM
Carolyn
Carolyn
From: United Kingdom

Sigh
Am I the only one that found that whole exchange really sad?
I think there are enough people "out there" willing to give us a hard time without arguing amongst ourselves about the particular pricing, training and validity of our qualifications - or not.

I guess the thing is when a legitimate question is asked about training and pricing it does often "offend" - even if that was not the intention.

As a typical Libran (lol sorry) I can see all sides of this - and actually in my work I am faced constantly with dilemmas about training, qualifications, pricing and in particular the "labels" I seem to have picked up along my journey so far, and what passing a particular "label" on means to someone who may choose me as the person to facilitate part of their journey.

Maybe the thought that we all have something to offer others (no matter what our particular label, how much we paid, or where we got it) is the main thing. That and the essential quality of always checking our motivation and intention (being personally responsible) in order to keep the client safe. At the end of the day, aren't they the ones that really matter more than us?

I hope Helen that you don't leave as I am sure you, along with everyone else that posts here, have extremely valid and useful information to share from all that you do.
Namaste
in love and light
Caz x

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 20-08-2007 05:16:20 PM
David
David
From: United Kingdom

Hi Caz,
Yes it's sad to see others fall out which is one of the reasons for my post.I hope we can all treat each other as we wish to be treated.
L&L
Dave

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 21-08-2007 03:29:59 AM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Who IS falling out??????????????????????????????

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 21-08-2007 02:59:57 PM
David
David
From: United Kingdom

Sorry I meant to say ill mannered driven by ego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 23-08-2007 05:11:40 AM
Asif
Asif
Moderator
From: United Kingdom

Although this is a Holistic site, this is also a forum and opinion should not be censured. A frank exchange of honest viewpoints is what should be happening here.

I sense that a lot of well meaning people come on here, generally have a tendancy to aviod confrontation (see many previous threads). Thats OK too, however this forum, like million so fo others on the net, is a microcosm of society in which you will get a whole array of opinion. We must all accept that and not take it personally

I hope Helen stays, and that we all take differing opinions as a chance to learn something, (i've had to many times).

Back to the thread now....

I must agree with Dawn, I have quarterly assessments to maintain my accreditation for Hypnotherapy and there people who have done the steps and yet use the qualification as a point whereby they feel they have nothign left to learn.

I learn from every client and will continue to do so until I reach Jon's age and maybe further... ;)

If I ever stop learning (being a master hypnotist and all that) shoot me

Peace

Asif

P.s. Jon is dead right, people reflect the way you are, inexorable truth of life, time tomove on....

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 24-08-2007 04:23:17 AM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

I learn from every client and will continue to do so until I reach Jon's age and maybe further..

What???????????????????????? My age, you young whippersnapper you. I am not dead, I live in the minds and hearts of those who know me. Asif you are marvellous.

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 15-10-2007 04:49:52 AM
Soraya
Soraya
From: United Kingdom
Jon wrote:
I learn from every client and will continue to do so until I reach Jon's age and maybe further..

What???????????????????????? My age, you young whippersnapper you. I am not dead, I live in the minds and hearts of those who know me. Asif you are marvellous.

Hi There everyone
Im' Soraya, Reiki Teaching Master - I am new to HL and just this morning found this forum - I havent read all of it but glanced through and picked up the thread of confusion that exists not nly in HL but unfortunately - throughout the practice and teaching of this discipline.
I have seen lots of adverts from individuals advertising to teach people from nil knowledge and experience through to Master Teacher in 2 days for £50 as well as offering to teach them a dozen other disciplines (for another £50) During my ten years teaching experience I have been approached by many students who have atken Reiki 1 or 2 and feel as though something is missing -
I have to say that I cast no aspersion on any other teacher or their methods - however on questioning the knowledge of these students I & they have found that essential elements of their knowledge or training was missing - they have goine on to train with me or another of my masters or indeed with other masters but with knowledge of questions to ask to ensure that their potential master teacher was trained to teacher level.
What has happened in this sacred discipline is that individuals have taken some Reiki Courses (and some havent even done that) and then claimed to be Master Teachers and gone on to "teach" others to master level (in two days) and told them that they can now teach!
So then we have a situation where in innocence an individual who believes that they have been give the "skills, rights, knowledge " to teach when in fact they havent.
1st Degree Reiki : During this level you are given 4 Attunements. These Attunements will raise your vibratory level and empower you to bring healing into your life. You will not be given sight of the symbols used but they will be charged into your auric or energy field.
2nd Degree Reiki : This level teaches the three 1st Degree Reiki Symbols The Power Symbol, Mental, Emotional Healing Symbol and the Distant Healing Symbol and the student is given a 2nd Degree Attunement. Different schools have different time length requirements before level II can be taken (usually three months between level I and level II) however when the student is ready is more precise.
3rd Degree Reiki (Master Level): Third Level Reiki is the Master Level of Reiki . The two 2nd Degree symbols are taught. A great commitment on the part of the student is required and a bond forged between student and master. At Master level the new master can Attune students to 2nd Degree level as pert of the healing process in cases of serious or terminal illness or injury but no further. This is not license to teach Reiki. Reiki can only be taught once the student has completed a teaching course.
Master Teacher: The Usui Master Symbol is taught. The Usui Master Symbol completes the awareness of the other five symbols taught at Levels II and Master level. During teacher training Master Teachers are taught how to teach and Attune up to master and master teacher level. This level is the empowerment level and it is the culmination of the entire training programme and is generally an ongoing relationship between the master teacher and his or her Master Teacher until the new teacher is ready to become independent.
Students who participate in courses run by the Lightworkers Foundation become members of the Scottish Complementary Medicine Association (SCMA) and the British Complementary Medicine Association (BCMA) on copletion of their 1st degree course they receive a liscence to practice Reiki from the BCMA.
I hope that the information that I have submitted has in some way enlighted rather than being taken as an entry into a debate -
Namaste Soraya

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 15-10-2007 12:47:53 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Hi Soraya, thank you for posting this. I am impressed with the way it is supposed to be done, or should I say, the way you are doing the teaching/learning of Reiki. Too many times I see people get into these fields to profit from teaching, rather than help people heal. As I have said above, I have known some to charge over $1000 to teach level 3. They way you describe is IMO, the best I have seen, excellent.
BTW, the other thing I don't like is the terminology, master. Who or what is a master? I think the reason is that, to me, it seems to set people above and I personally don't like levels. Stages of learning is fine, but levels seem to create divisions, something like, "oh your ONLY level 2, I'm a master" sort of thing.
I like the terms Reiki 1, 2 and 3 better.
I would like to point out here that I could be called a master in EFT if I chose, because I have the qualification. I personnaly don't call myself that, in fact I don't call myself anything to delineate myself above others.

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 15-10-2007 02:53:28 PM
W*HolisticUK
W*HolisticUK
From: United Kingdom

WOW
What a very exciting thread.

I have been unwell for a few days with the dreaded climate change . Its a lot damper in the air here in the UK right now, which in some ways is a good thing.
This time of year usually effects my 'heart area, energy centers' becoming a little groggy chested and grounded on the run up to Winter.

I so love the Autumn its a beautiful time. I do have to say though that the winter is the best time of year for me to get moving and motivated in the physical world.. I can not get away from the that fact this is partly a weight issue.. EEK - Moves on rapidly.....

The Spring I Adore, its a mystical time of rebirth and my middle son (26) is born to whats known as a 'cusp baby' on the Spring Equinox. He projects such Springy characteristics via his being..I can tell you he is full of beans..

What a wonderful thread this is for young and old to gain motivation, to learn that the Universe and its wondrous gifts are alike any other gifts Human kind strive so hard at times to attain. Our Skills.

As some of you know I project myself as Master Learner. I have read through this thread and notice a notion that you may agree is missing. May I also add here that there is not one of the posts in this delightful exchange of energy that I have not learned something from. So I thank you all for that.

I was fortunate and unfortunate at times to be raised as a Mystic. I was placed in my cradle at 1 min past midnight in a place called Gulson Tower at the threshold of the the 50's.The lady that supported my delivery into the big wide Universe and this place called Earth, lay my freshly born naked body into the wooden box made of oak and said the words. This be a Mystic Witch this be. I name her Gaynor.. EEK! Wow! Dare I settle for a self fulfilling prophecy?

Not likely...

I was raised in the mid lands of the UK a girl of the shires and was raised in a multicultural Community where I constantly battled against my inherited projection.Rebel with a cause though lol. My Grandma who is still with us today at 96 a generational Mystic not surprised at the new delivery of her first granddaughter to be named Gaynor.

Cutting a long story short..And it is long. I am now heading towards 50, academically acquired and inherently gifted. I have educated my Inherent mysticism with my academic skills and credentials to become a part of my wholesome wholistic objective.

I feel strongly that the Universe and my allergic ness (I know the word probably does not even exist) to gravity is blessed and cursed at the same time to become adjective to the bigger picture. I try not to bring myself into dualism and find that I am united with myself. Yes and I am also aware that I can meddle with the English language and make up words, just like the Earth and its many cultures can bring in there different methods of religion learning, teaching, healing, playing football and running a Marathon. It's all in nice little neat categories.. Maybe a part of the whole-istic Picture...

So yes! 16 years ago I thought to myself lets go on a vision quest.. I did, we did 10 of us out in the forest for 3 nights. For a whole 24hrs a part of the 3 nights I sat inside a wheel of energy (North East West and South = NEWS) some times known as a Medicine wheel in various cultures. I then went on to meditate BE and SIT, not sit and be. for 24 hours - Just me and a supply of water. The Chanel I was creating to allow the universe to move through me.

I went on and channeled what ever was to come to me that night.
During my 3 days in the Forest I was given a gift of a dead Deer skull, still with half of its skin and hyde left on. It was an awful gift - yukky - I didn't even want to touch it. But what shall I do with it?

I proceeded to get my tools out of my body bag and began cleaning down the hyde and skin still left on the skull. I continued to drift in and out of trance meditation state for the rest of my time in the wheel. The Skull ended up clean and put outside in our home garden until the aroma of death had cleared. I gave it to my husband as a gift as it was significant to us. We were married on the day of Princess Diana's memorial August the 31st. I had insight into Diana's and Dodie's accident during my vision quest. I called the skull Dody dido and this was many moons before Diana and her love went on 5 years later and had their accident. It is now in our Lizard tank with Lizzy lizard who is now nearly 20 years of age. She lives inside of the skull.

I was enlightened so much that weekend but for the most of it I learned of the Universe and how the Source of everything here on earth refer-es to it. And sometimes known by other names, the most obvious one God! Or in the Metaphysical terms known as the Jeanie of the lamp that makes all your wishes come true?
I learned that the divides of differing cultures all drew from the same source. The Universe. I learned that that the Universe was what all cultures have in common, apart from the Earth and its individual parts. I felt sharing this would give you a little insight as to how I have become a healing practitioner

I was raised as a Mystic healer and I learned much from my Grandma and still do. She is most definitely at 96 year old force to be reckoned with. At least from my frame of reference any way. I am guided by her and the love that we share..She is my Mentor and I will always hear her voice in my heart. I am now known as the families 7th generational Mystic...

I met a Reiki Master who attuned me across1990 to1992 and we discussed argued and debated about this Japanese cultural healing perspective that has grown around the world. I am was a Mystic Energy Worker as my Gran had taught me through the years. When Reiki entered my life I thought to myself do I really need to learn any more about this Reiki stuff? I gave it credit for its method and its cultural positive regard. It was no surprise to me that this Reiki was a healing method from another country was similar to my raising as an energy healer.
Some folk would have been raised as a spirit healer. Yet another wonderful method of healing... There are many other methods of healing that I do not need to list here. The point being that most have the same intent and objective if different in detail and practice

I would like to affirm here that I have read all of the other interesting posts and really enjoyed this thread - All of it. But surly this Universe and all its participants will find that we learn by experience as well by the system of things.

Is it that the Source, the Universe, has a more of a panoramic perspective to be interpreted from here on the earth

It can, take a life time of on going learning to learn any method of helping others in any shape or form, the Universal source no matter how you interpret it, taking care of all its parts, alike in this threads case all of the different opinions and facts being part and parcel of the same objective.

The Money the exchange - EEK Touchy subject, as yes unfortunately here in the UK I have learned that exchanges are sometimes unfair and unjust. Many times....Hence why our organization stays non profit. And to be honest with you all I don't see how Reiki alone can offer individuals a living.... Another subject to be explored and debated

The Length of Study time and learning. A life time? 1 year? 6 months? 1 day?
Once you are attuned to the Universe and its many perspectives, the learning curve is obviously a massive commitment because it stays with you. I don't have to tell anyone here what impact the healing, mystical, spiritual world has on us as individuals as I feel you all well know.. different perspectives. Which tells me what my Granny ushers me to remember when I ask for 'supervision'.. She tells me
"We are all the same.. Unique" and that learning is experiential. Certificates have there own worth these days....Which reminds me, that we all have conditions of worth as Healers, helpers, supporters.

So to conclude and adding to this wonderfully enlightening thread. The Universe has many perspectives and Reiki is one of them, it being a Japanese perspective.. Mastering a skill can take an individual a life time and groups, organizations and families many generations all to be found left on the skull as skin/hyde. Getting this hyde off was another great task that I have to say I did not enjoy doing, on reflection however I have learned many things from skinning a Deer skull in a very solitude and meditative place.

I suppose I am not quite sure why I wanted to tell you a little about my life.. Perhaps it was because I wanted to show example that I had worked hard over my life time to show my Grandma I am what she expected.. An open mind with an open heart that is willing to accept anything that feels good.

I personally exchanged my Reiki Teachings for £150 (That is what I paid over 2 years) I feel all three levels of Usui can be taught/learn ed inside a year.

Teaching is another matter as its not just about "mastering" the levels, its about imparting knowledge which I feel needs to be at least outlined pragmatically.

Times have changed and inflation has had its way and many have got on the bandwagon as others have pointed out here in this thread. When working with learning partners I tell them my story and expect! Yes expect! them to make the same amount £150 donation to Universal Learning as we are a recognized not for profit fund raising effort.

For me to attune a said Usui Master Learner it has to be face to face 8 hour workshop after 13 moons - an hour a week of working on line. I am able to attune and work with levels 1 & 2 at a distant. And here I would like to point out that it is down to the individual to say if they are learning anything on self assessment and the student centered criteria.

The different governing bodies across the Globe and especially in the UK are many to many to list. I am a liscened Practitioner via the NHS here in UK and that let me tell you 'takes no prisoners' because once listed with the NHS you are in effect saying you are working for an organization who's main objective is to give low incomes participants low cost or free helping and healing. To gain NHS Listing you have to have to show academic qualification, governing body accreditation such as for me being a Therapist BACP Trained (British Association of counselling and Psycho Therapy) and insurance. Paying a nice round fee for the privilege of jumping through the hoops of learning....

This also gains the registrant a listing in every health practitioners NHS listing book in their practices surgery that is updated and delivered quarterly. Registrants are vetted by the NHS as worthy in their work and validated enough to let loose on the public. Which I do feel Certain methods of healing have not got... No matter who accredits them..Interpersonal skills are not a criteria of Reiki are they but what is I feel is a commitment to self development for one should be I feel willing to practice what they preach! One can not heal others unless they can heal themselves. In my work I keep coming across healing practitioners who are ill. This leaves a lot to be questioned..

Thank you all for the opportunity to share
I would also like to take the opportunity to ask those of you who shop on line to explore supporting Universal Learning via http://www.easyfundraising.org.ukwhere myself and a team of volunteers offer many services as volunteers.

Kind regards Gaynor AKA W*HolisticUK
Live Love Laugh and there you shall be the

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 15-10-2007 03:52:27 PM
W*HolisticUK
W*HolisticUK
From: United Kingdom

Thanks Helen

for the link - I had been given this web link a while back and continued not to check after I book marked it.. It wasn't until I went to book mark it again I saw it had already been book marked..

So, thanks for the little lift back, this writing as it has become quite an interesting piece in more ways than one..

Kind regards Gaynor AKA W*HolisticUK
Remember that the Earth is the living,
breathing heartbeat of us all


ANNOUNCEMENT
Gawd knows how I ended up posting this here when it was meant for the Potatoe thread.. I am chuckling so deep inside I can not understand how I landed in this thread posting from another thread... Giggles.. Any way back to the potatoe thread with Helen.... lol Now where am I ....... ?

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 15-10-2007 09:35:54 PM
Neil
Neil
From: United Kingdom

Namaste,

I was curious about the following in your post -

W*HolisticUK wrote:
WOW
I was fortunate and unfortunate at times to be raised as a Mystic....

...I have educated my Inherent mysticism.....

...I am now known as the families 7th generational Mystic...

Just wondering what you mean by and how you define "mystic" in what you say. It is one of those terms which people seem to have a variety of different ideas about. Curious as to what you mean by it since you used it several times.

Om Shanti
Neil

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 16-10-2007 09:32:51 AM
W*HolisticUK
W*HolisticUK
From: United Kingdom
Neil wrote:
Namaste,

I was curious about the following in your post -

W*HolisticUK wrote:
WOW
I was fortunate and unfortunate at times to be raised as a Mystic....

...I have educated my Inherent mysticism.....

...I am now known as the families 7th generational Mystic...

Just wondering what you mean by and how you define "mystic" in what you say. It is one of those terms which people seem to have a variety of different ideas about. Curious as to what you mean by it since you used it several times



Hi there,
Unfortunate at times,
because it can be a very strange effort to have been labeled a Mystic before I was even born.. Placed into the cradle and called a Mystic Witch. One example is I had my extra curricula classes to attend whilst my peers were kicking up the mud on the playing field. :(

Magical/mystical things that have happened to me via projecting as a Mystic can shock me.. Some of the experiences can not be voiced. Other wise, I might be carried of in a white van with a man in a white coat to the mental health unit! :-O

Mysticism is not for the faint heart or lazy layman. (Not saying all men are lazy) More to the point of man kind, we can be generally lazy in keeping up with the Earths needs. In fact, I believe, we dam well abuse it... Let’s not go there here on this thread. I will be here all day!

Some of my mystical experiences make me cry for hours....
Some make me laugh for hours...

Fortunate because I have vision and insight into matters that concern Humans, Earth and the Universe. Some of the magic I encounter can shock me in a happy and sad sense. I am dedicated to learning more and more about the sacred sciences and religions upon the earth and its history.. I know a life time is not enough I want to be here for ever and keep learning... And yet some times I would be happy to swung right of the great wheel of life!

Mystic?
Skills that I have as a Mystic and in my raising have now been disciplined as is subject matter within mainstream education. IE The discipline of History, Math’s and English etc...When I say that I have educated my Inherent mysticism, what I mean here is that my upbringing was a bit, let’s say, randomly hit and miss and that I was a rebellious student.

I have learned about the world and its state of affairs. I have learned how to make herbal concoctions I have learned the Art of Massage and especially Meridian Massage which is where EFT originates from...

As a child I was also a learned student of an Aboriginal Shaman whom is no longer with us on earth but continues to affect my every day learning. I was taught the no 13 was a Shaman number because of 13 moons in a year and other things that I could take all day writing about. Its no surprise to me then, that I was fortunate to get a home by the Sea after being raised in the Mid lands until I was 31 and my house no that I have settled in is the number 13.. The no 13 features in my world very often..

So MY stic isms as in other isms is hard to describe because it can be interpreted by the Individual as you say in your post above. I feel because that is what mysticisms is and what it becomes. An individuals learning process. It’s been a long learning curve and a half that I have had and worth more life times than of one person which has a knock on effect, if you like, to everything in existence in a persons world. I suppose we could get into genetics’ here.. EEK Nooooooo I will never shut up...

I have been raised to explore life to its fullness to delve into energies and experiences that others may find shocking. I have been raised to be able to 'read' life with my senses and I have been raised to look further than the edge of the planet for knowledge. Planetary - Psychology.

My Grand ma tells me the women in her time lived of the land and worked with the seasons. Reaping harvests upon their small holdings. Making use of the herbs and potions the earth has to offer at harvest times. Watching a reading the movements of the Sun and moon, watching what Venus was going to do next. Although a fantastic herbalist I am unable to advise as a service due to legislation some years back about dispensing herbal concoctions publicly. I didn't bother to register and did not want to go in that direction an way. There are many fantastic, Herbalist in the world.

As far as I am concerned, my self as a Mystic enters into an agreement with self. No dualism and is to stay on the/a sacred path of enlightenment. This has been agreed by many generations in my family as the Welsh Men (My Grandma is Welsh) have Druid and Priests history on my Grandmas Family tree.... No women Druids those days apparently - my Grandma tells me, that there is no such thing as a female Druid and laughs when you ask her about one. She has a Forget me not pressed in a book that she was given by her Great Grandfather, she giggles when you ask her about female druids of today and what she has learned about druids in the 21st Century. Grandma does tell me though that Sect’s like the Druids and Freemason were an excuse to keep the women from the knowledge that their men were being men and that had nothing to do with women. She has some wonderfully funny stories.... She is one to say Boys will be boys and Girls will be girls, and like the east and west never the Twain shall meet. I just want to add here part of me agrees with her, but then its not her that is active in society in the 21st Century.

The word Mystic my Grandma shares with me and I tend to agree with is one who respects life and its mystery above all else. One who will learn to keep the earth safe and make use of the resources that the earth and universe has to offer. Not bleed it dry.. For example oil, diamonds, lead, tin and many more. We won't go into Religious subject matter here

I could go on but time will elude me as it usually does when I am sharing about my world... Enough of my babble.. Onwards and upwards.. 

I would also like to add before I do finally get on with my work and stop[ babbling, that I feel Mysticism is life and life is a meditation........ ongoing

Thank you Nanan for you have shown me contentment:)

PS I would like to place your question and my answer upon the Universal Community may I do so please Neil

Curio user and Curio user said Alice
Kind regards Gaynor AKA W*HolisticUK

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 16-10-2007 10:56:48 AM
Helen
Helen
From: United Kingdom

In other words, W*HolisticUK, could we say that you're a Wiccan?

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 16-10-2007 11:27:24 AM
W*HolisticUK
W*HolisticUK
From: United Kingdom
Helen wrote:
In other words, W*HolisticUK, could we say that you're a Wiccan?

I could but I won't :) I know myself as a Congruent Mystic

I did have a Boarder Collie dog called Wiccan until she passed with lymphatic Cancer 2 years ago at 10.. She was my greatest Friend.Which brings me to our new friend that my husband and I rescued. A nearly 3 year old Boarder Collie Mr Benzo whom is the same sun sign as me..
So will be looking for similar qualities of persona.. Unpredictability - Giggles.

Have a nice day Helen and all

Kind regards Gaynor AKA W*HolisticUK

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 16-10-2007 05:50:42 PM
Neil
Neil
From: United Kingdom

Namaste,

W*HolisticUK wrote:
I would like to place your question and my answer upon the Universal Community may I do so please Neil

Thank you taking the time to write such a full response. I feel I have a much clearer idea about yourself and what you mean now when you call yourself a mystic. Please feel welcome to post your response wherever you see fit (and my question too).

Thanks again.

Om Shanti
Neil

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 17-10-2007 12:41:51 PM
W*HolisticUK
W*HolisticUK
From: United Kingdom
Neil wrote:
Please feel welcome to post your response wherever you see fit (and my question too).

Thank you. :)

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 5-01-2009 07:23:23 AM
Kay
Kay
From: United States

I have read several of the posts in this discussion. It saddens me that there is such bigotry in the Complementary, Metaphysical, and Holistic field. It seems as if some people are trying to push that their way of healing is the only accepted way to heal, and any other way is "just rubbish". And we have an uphill battle just getting our Complementary and Alternative methods accepted by both Conventional Medicine Practitioners and lay people as it is without acting like a bunch of schoolyard bullies trying to push their own agendas, or having this bulletin board as a venting place to work through their own self-esteem issues.

To the people who are so negative about Reiki, my question would be: Have you ever tried it and experienced the health benefits? I am proudly a Reiki Master Teacher, who completed 4 levels of Reiki, not 3, as well as Reflexology and Acupressure. I took my level 1 and 2 in 2004, and did my level 3 and Master Teacher levels in 2008. My teacher splits that class into 2 because many of her students don't want to teach at all. I am currently apprentice teaching with my Sensei, so that I will gain proficiency when I teach. I do not claim to be an expert, and am continually learning. I have never paid $4,000.00 (or $2,000.00, or any other obscene price) for any level of training, wouldn't charge that much, and I can agree with the notion that just because you have a certification doesn't mean you are an expert. You don't stop your education and learning and growing. I do charge for sessions, and I do charge to teach. But the students and clients are paying for my time, not the energy. That's from God and he/she gives it away for free and it is accessible to everyone.

And finding the right Reiki Teacher or Practitioner to learn from is just like finding the right Kinesiologist or Psychic/Hypnotist. You have to thoroughly research and compare and evaluate whether you want to associate with the person and decide if you want to try and develop a trusting client/student/practitioner relationship.

Besides, with Reiki or any energy healing that is being done, it isn't the individual practitioner that is doing the healing or making the healing work. It's a greater power that is beyond the individual. That is also true for many other types of Complementary Healing and Metaphysical practices. If all people who classify themselves as "healers" or "psychics" felt this way, no actual healing benefit would be achieved because the ego would prevent the higher self from connecting to consciousness (or God, or whatever you want to call it. It's all the same) to receive the healing.

This is such a nice website and there are so many knowledgeable, experienced, and truly giving people in this community. I really don't appreciate the prejudices and aggressive personal attacks. Questions are good, and trying to understand, appreciate, and being tolerant of different modalities is even better.

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