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 30-11-2006 11:49:55 AM
Asif
Asif
Moderator
From: United Kingdom

Isn't is strange that in todays world of political wars and constant fear mongering we have finally achieved something. We are non judgemental when it comes to blogs, we accept them for what the are, we may not agree with the view but we just let it go!

Are we evolving to a higher state of being, to a higher vibrational plain, by using technology?

Isn't the use of technology like the internet accelerating the growth in spirituality and connectedness of the human world?

If so, should we advocate more technology then? Or does that go against your ideals?

Or am I missing the point?

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 30-11-2006 10:32:07 PM
David
David
From: United Kingdom

Hi Asif,
It's better communication IMHO thats improved things.Now we can talk to anyone in the world, study their culture and the reasons for it, allowing us to have a greater respect for others way of life.It's removing barriers that have existed for thousands of years.
L&L
Dave

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 2-12-2006 08:38:36 AM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Asif, how do you figure we are evolving to a higher place? I do not see the connection, just because we accept internet blogs? I question that reasoning.

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 2-12-2006 11:54:34 AM
Asif
Asif
Moderator
From: United Kingdom
Asif wrote:
Isn't is strange that in todays world of political wars and constant fear mongering we have finally achieved something. We are non judgemental when it comes to blogs, we accept them for what the are, we may not agree with the view but we just let it go!

Are we evolving to a higher state of being, to a higher vibrational plain, by using technology?

Isn't the use of technology like the internet accelerating the growth in spirituality and connectedness of the human world?

If so, should we advocate more technology then? Or does that go against your ideals?

Or am I missing the point?

Sorry Jon, my mistake i should have written it better.

There seems to be gentle shift away from judgement and towards acceptance. Isn't that an evolution of a kind?

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 2-12-2006 07:09:54 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Don't know Asif, I still see an awful lot of judgement in the community. I think these sorts of changes occur very slowly, and would be hard to notice. However, thats just my opinion, I am by no means an expert.

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 15-12-2006 03:45:33 PM
Judy
Judy
From: Canada

I think blogs may be a very bad reference to raising consciousness. They are used by the some of the ones I have read to put someone else down...what is raising in consciousness (or otherwise) to that?

I read a message somewhere that the blog has become your resume...perhaps you should keep your words sweet. It referenced how a boss doing an employee interview went on the internet to see how that particular candidate blogged. They were hired (or not) according to their own words. As a friend mentioned recently...keep your words sweet, you never know when you may have to eat them.

Technology is wonderful in its way...but as with all things human beings can and do abuse their benefits. As a key to our spirituality I think it may be a bit over rated. Spirituality must come from within the heart and the heart must learn the lessons to spiritualize. While technology has opened a world view...how many of the truly spiritual actually use it?

God bless, J

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 16-12-2006 08:31:28 AM
Paula
Paula
From: New Zealand

Hello everyone. I'm brand new to this site and I thought, what a way to cut my newbie teeth.

Before I begin let me please say that not everyone in every culture are the same and I do understand that. We are all individuals with minds, hearts and souls.
I am an American by birth, who is now living in New Zealand.

Asif, I believe I understand what you mean. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
There is an underlying vibration of people (world wide) who are slowly realizing what "life" is truly all about. Via the internet, we get to meet and understand what makes others tick, what motivates others and what other cultures believe in and practice. The vibration of people who are so inclined take this new found knowledge and apply it (consciously or subconsciously) and move towards a more enlightened way of living via the acceptance of others. Technology in this case is a conduit to the ultimate way of living. This phenomenon is very much like the human awakening that took 30 years to become an accepted way of living. Think of this vibration of people as a vibrating platform the longer the vibration has time to do it's thing the more the surrounding elements (people) have a chance to join in.

I have experienced this kind of phenominon just by being born at the right time.
I was a baby/young 'un in the 50s, a teen in the 60s and a young adult in the 70s. During just that period of time I went from an Ozzie and Harriet viewpoint (50s) to a more accepting and open viewpoint (70s). People finally got to break out of the cocoon they were living in and express themselves like never before. However, that break came with consequences. Coincidentally technology started it's own awakening at the very same time.

I have been in the technology field since the 70s. I accept it, I love it and hate it all at the same time. I feel right now technology is moving way too fast in certain areas. Unfortunately the same technology that is being developed to help the world can also kill the world at the same time.

Some cultures are still moving within the 50s framework and refuse to move beyond that. That is their right. However, these also happen to be the cultures who have the hardest times accepting others for who they are. We have to be patient and allow these cultures to develop their own vibration platform.

All of the above , like everything else has it's opposites. We see this in the news everyday. As an example, the mud slinging and deceit that goes on just in our governments is enough to make you want to stay in bed with the covers over your head. BUT we still have our vibrating platform and slowly more and more people will speak up and change the way we view each other and the world.

I realize I bounced around a bit here, but there is just so much to say regarding this subject.

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 16-12-2006 02:44:43 PM
Judy
Judy
From: Canada

K: I grew up in just the same times so I can understand the mindset at its changed. Unfortunately the technology literate or strong are those of a newer generation. Their mindset did not include some of the lessons that the slow and steady growth produced.

On the blogs there is so much 'garbage' that is passed off as intelligence and there is a lot of blogging ones feelings. These spew out like a waterfall of slime. They do not know or care who or what they hurt in their progress to the blog. They claim the right to free speech and at the same time limit others' same rights.

I do appreciate technology. We are in the infants stage of this new technology and somewhere along the line there is going to come some rules. We are seeing this with preditors who lure unsuspecting children through the internet.

I am also seeing how wonderful the contact and interaction with newfound friends around the world means to me and others. This is such a big wonder!

So while many things can come from the good...we also sometimes have to accept the bad.

God bless, J

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 17-12-2006 05:54:15 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Now, where was that quote I read;
'There is nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so'.
Hmmmm

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 27-12-2006 02:56:00 PM
Darrell
Darrell
From: United States

Greetings to All here,

I am new here also.
I have spent thirty five years seeing it evolve, and I feel that science and spirituality are good partners in our age, especially tech sciences. Like any information, its what we do with it. The world is connected in a manner that has removed the censorship - for now - and it allows a person to person view of others throughout the world.
People will always use communication to spout their anger and frustrations, skip past it and move on if it upsets you. Turn off your TV and listen to the news only if it is relevant to you. There is so much positive news in the world today.
People are smarter now, not so easily lead and becoming hard to maipulate because we can search the truth for ourselves, find alternative views and ideas. Tech is changing the world to be sure. Wether it is good or bad is up to the individual to decide like most of lifes experiences.
High tech has allowed this forum life and a chance for us all to talk and share.

Darrell

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 28-12-2006 11:16:20 AM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Garrell wrote: People will always use communication to spout their anger and frustrations, skip past it and move on if it upsets you. Turn off your TV and listen to the news only if it is relevant to you. There is so much positive news in the world today.

Sorry Darrell, I don't agree that we should turn off the bad news. To see only one side of the world is limiting your view of the world and giving you an unreal view of the world. To close your eyes to one side of any coin does not give you a balanced view of that coin. Everything in this world has 2 sides, yin/yang, to ignore one is IMHO, unrealistic.

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 28-12-2006 02:25:22 PM
Darrell
Darrell
From: United States

Hello Jon
I wasn't suggesting to bury your head in the sand about the negative news, only to seek a balance of input. Mass media is predominantly negative and crisis oriented news. Until the internet hit, positive news was hard to come by, now there is balance.
Like my post, there was positive in it, and you chose the paragraph you conflict with to respond to.

Darrell

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 28-12-2006 07:02:55 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Dsarrell, I chose the paragraph I didn't agree with.

I don't disagree with the rest, however, there are many people out there with their head in the sand, who don't want to see 'bad news', and, as I said, a balanced view is needed, and you cant have a balanced view by not knowing all thats going on.
As I said before,
'There is nothing good or bad,
but thinking makes it so.'

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 28-12-2006 08:55:57 PM
Darrell
Darrell
From: United States

Jon

Yes - good / bad is all a peception choice.
Perhaps we are being overwhelmed with news, information, and data. I love knowledge and the internet has been great for me. But I developed my learnign skills - old school - before tech took over. I did these things called books.

I am not a news junkie, but an information one and high tech is a great tool for me.

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 3-01-2007 01:03:06 PM
Leanne
Leanne
From: United Kingdom

Why do we have to watch bad news? isn't it our own choice if we wish to close our eyes and ears to the negative influences of the world? There is nothing wrong with wanting only to allow positive things into our lives. To be honest I dont like watching the news as I agree with Darrell that the majority of the news in the media these days is negative and bad. It is because of this (I believe) that people are influenced to behave badly. I live in my own bubble as much as possible, my own happy little positive bubble. It does not make me nieve or innocent or ignorant, but it is the place I have chosen to be and if I live like that for the rest of my life til I die, then so be it!

This reminds me of a post written by Free Spirit about a book called Stargirl by Jerry Spinelli, http://www.holisticlocal.co.uk/forums/topics/view/505. The book tells a story about a girl who has been closed off mostly from the public and media and society for most of her life and she is the happiest little soul in the world. I started to read this book a few days ago and it has really influenced how I would like to be. Is there anything wrong with wanting to be like that? I dont think so.

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 6-01-2007 07:50:39 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Leanne wrote: Why do we have to watch bad news?

Because we need balance, yin/yang. Without balance we will not see harmony.

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 7-01-2007 12:44:39 PM
Jayne
Jayne
Moderator
From: United Kingdom

Hi Leanne,
I do understand where you're coming from and I agree that the mainstream media do like to cause fear and hysteria,thats where the art of reading between the lines comes in - and it is important to have a balance so as not to be constantly overwhelmed in his age of mass communication.
At the same time though I think we do need to know the facts (both 'good and bad')
and to seek the truth as if we are not aware of all aspects of events how can we turn negatives into positives?

You only have to look at what happened in Germany in the 2nd world war to see the consequences of not wanting to really know what was happening to many people.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

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 7-01-2007 01:04:48 PM
John
John
From: United Kingdom

Hi Leane

I know where your coming from ...and I think yes it is right to protect ones energy (which is how I read you as meaning ).Some stuff we do have to ' show the hand to ',

However we can,t remain closed to events that are ultimately a threat to social harmony and health.We may say theres nothing we can do ...but awareness is the beginning of something...without it no action can come about.

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 8-01-2007 09:59:08 AM
Leanne
Leanne
From: United Kingdom

Do you guys not think though that the reason there is so much corruption in the world is because we all seem to be so interested in each others business and we get ourselves wound up over it and so invloved in it? If we all just lived our lives instead of getting so involved in everything that is going on around us when really it has nothing to do with us, the world would be a much more harmonious place?

I believe that the negativity in the world is generated from a vicious circle which just keeps going round and round and the more we get involved in it the more we are feeding it. Thats why I choose to just get on with MY life instead of adding to its food source.

Maybe I am wrong for thinking like this, but I know that it makes me a happier person.

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 8-01-2007 12:24:57 PM
John
John
From: United Kingdom
Leanne wrote:
If we all just lived our lives instead of getting so involved in everything that is going on around us when really it has nothing to do with us, the world would be a much more harmonious place?.

I hate to say it Leanne but the saying ' ignorance is bliss '..has always been the life style view of the relatively comfortably well off.....they can afford it!

Try your piece of advice on someone in India or the Phillipines who is working 16 hours ,7 days a week for a pittence so that we in the West can have cheap clothing...

Whenever you buy anything you are involved..... indeed even if you have the luxury to buy .....you are involved.

Its also not a very holistic standpoint......:)

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