When EMF pollution tests as a problem for clients I recommend using plants, stones or crystals which work just as well ( probably better) as all the expensive 'gizmo's' found on the market. Also remember that if you have to plug them in you could be adding to the problem
Don't you remember the big white quartz beach stone I lent you for Ann Marie's computer desk Neil???
Spider plants are particularly good at absorbing EMF's so have them around the TV or computer- they love it and you can almost watch them grow!

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Namaste Jayne,

Hope you're having a good weekend.

LOL Indeed!

I only have the vaguest recollection of it, so much now seems like a lifetime ago to me. Anne-Marie could probably do with it at present as she is over working at the Argonne National Laboratory, which probably has emf levels that are off the chart!

Rather synchronisitically I had already planned this weekend to plant some of the spiderlings that the spider plant has produced. An auspicious sign it would seems! I'll be sure to spread them near the tv and the pc. Any idea what it is about spider plants that makes them particularly good at this?

Thanks Jayne.

Om Shanti
Neil

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Hi Neil,
that was good timing about the spider plants my understanding is that they love the frequency of the vibration and resonate with the EMF's so 'mop' them up. So the more plants the better!
Do you remember the GS survey I did at Mid fairlie? That was what the waste paper basket filled with quartz pebbles was about as it was the cheapest solution! As Ann Marie spent so much of her time at the computer studying it was affecting her immune system(I think that the older computers were much worse than the newer ones). Far worse now are the cordless phones and now Bluetooth .
Also if there are negative earth energy lines through the building these will esculate the effects of EMF's for people. Some people do seem to be more EMF pollution sensitive but I don't know why -

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Namaste Jayne,

Jayne wrote:

that was good timing about the spider plants my understanding is that they love the frequency of the vibration and resonate with the EMF's so 'mop' them up. So the more plants the better!

I'm running out of plant space in here. The current living room total stands at 24. It was 25 until Tuna recently did a pee in one. I was not amused, but she didn't seem fussed.

I can recall you showing me the GS survey reasonably well. Though I can't really recall all of what it said. The pebbles in the basket I've got no recollection of in the slightest. Though it does sound like an easy solution. But I wonder what else can't I recall??? LOL It would seem that every time I learn something new it pushes something old out.

There was an article out about a month ago, I think it was either from the Independent or the Telegraph, about some schools in the UK removing their wi-fi due to the (potential) risk. I should have posted the article here. I can also recall from a few years back a documentary on the topic by the guy who was heading up the study to be used by the government for their policy regarding health on this issue. He concluded that he couldn't say it was safe and could even be potentially harmful. He advised against the introduction of it into schools and wouldn't let his own kids use it. His basic recommendation was to put a halt on it and conduct more investigation into the topic. Of course the gov ignored their own findings and the advice they had paid for and pushed on regardless.

Cheers Jayne.

Om Shanti
Neil

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After some fishing here it is. Turns out it was in neither, it was The Times. What was I just saying about my memory! LOL


Health fears lead schools to dismantle wireless networks

by Joanna Bale, The Times, November 20, 2006

Parents and teachers are forcing some schools to dismantle wireless computer networks amid fears that they could damage children’s health.
More schools are putting transmitters in classrooms to give pupils wireless access from laptops to the school computer network and the internet.

But many parents and some scientists fear that low levels of microwave radiation emitted by the transmitters could be harmful, causing loss of concentration, headaches, fatigue, memory and behavioural problems and possibly cancer in the long term. Scientific evidence is inconclusive, but some researchers think that children are vulnerable because of their thinner skulls and developing nervous systems.

At the Prebendal School, a prestigious preparatory in Chichester, West Sussex, a group of parents lobbied the headteacher, Tim Cannell, to remove the wireless network last month. Mr Cannell told The Times: “We listened to the parents’ views and they were obviously very concerned. We also did a lot of research. The authorities say it’s safe, but there have been no long-term studies to prove this.

“We had been having problems with the reliability of it anyway, so we decided to exchange it for a conventional cabled system.”

Vivienne Baron, who is bringing up Sebastian, her ten-year-old grandson, said: “I did not want Sebastian exposed to a wireless computer network at school. No real evidence has been produced to prove that this new technology is safe in the long term. Until it is, I think we should take a precautionary approach and use cabled systems.”

At Ysgol Pantycelyn, a comprehensive in Carmarthenshire, parents aired their concerns to the governors, who agreed to switch off its wireless network. Hywel Pugh, the head teacher, told The Times: “The county council and central government told us that wireless networks are perfectly safe, but as there were concerns we listened to them and decided that the concerns of the parents were of greater importance than our need to have a wireless network.”

Judith Davies, who has a daughter at the school, said: “Many people campaign against mobile phone masts near schools, but there is a great deal of ignorance about wireless computer networks. Yet they are like having a phone mast in the classroom and the transmitters are placed very close to the children.”

Stowe School, the Buckinghamshire public school, also removed part of its wireless network after a teacher became ill. Michael Bevington, a classics teacher for 28 years at the school, said that he had such a violent reaction to the network that he was too ill to teach.

“I felt a steadily widening range of unpleasant effects whenever I was in the classroom,” he said. “First came a thick headache, then pains throughout the body, sudden flushes, pressure behind the eyes, sudden skin pains and burning sensations, along with bouts of nausea. Over the weekend, away from the classroom, I felt completely normal.”

Anthony Wallersteiner, the head teacher of Stowe School, said that he was planning to put cabled networks in all new classrooms and boarding houses.

Professor Sir William Stewart, chairman of the Health Protection Agency, said that evidence of potentially harmful effects of microwave radiation had become more persuasive over the past five years. His report said that while there was a lack of hard information of damage to health, the approach should be precautionary.

A DfES spokesman said: “It’s up to individual schools to decide on this.”

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That's interesting! Call me cynical, but I was amazed to read that schools are actually listening to parents and removing the wifi!!

As we tend to live in boarding schools, this is often an issue for us. My husband is very sensitive to EMF, especially when he's in a classroom with old-style tube lights and a computer next to his desk. Funny that. When I work on him, it's always the same old stuff and he always needs lots of protection (plants, crystals, etc) when he's at work, but he's fine in the holidays, since I keep the house pretty clear. I worry for the pupils, who are stuck with it, not just in the classrooms, but in their study/dormitory too.

I can't stand spider plants, nasty stripy things. I use peace lily! And maidenhair fern is meant to be good, I believe.

With Wifi and other EMF devices showing no signs of going away permanently, it's going to be a big area for research very soon I guess!

Anna

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Thats amazing Anna, I have a Maidenhair Fern at the Centre (www.meridiankinesiology.co.nz) and in my last place it barely survived. It now sits oner the cordless phone base, and has just gone wild, must be coincidence, hmmm

BTW, if you want your husband to be free of EMF's, HK doesn't have the answer, however, Neurolink and TBM do.

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Alternative health capital turns its 'negative energy' on pioneering wi-fi system

Source: The Telegraph, 27.12.08

It is regarded as an oasis of calm and tranquility, and the nation's capital for alternative health therapies and spiritual healing remedies.

But now the residents of Glastonbury, which has long been a favoured destination for pilgrims, are at the centre of a bitter row in which many blame the town's new wireless computer network - known as wi-fi - for a spate of health problems.

Some healers even hold that electro-magnetic fields (EMFs) generated by the wi-fi system are responsible for upsetting positive energy fields of the body, which are known as chakras, and positive energy fields of the earth, which are known as ley lines.

There are now calls for the project, the first of its kind in Britain, to be "unplugged" and for wi-fi masts in the centre of the Somerset market town to be removed just seven months into its experimental run.

Meanwhile soothsayers, astrologers and other opponents of the wi-fi system have resorted to an alternative technology - known as "orgone" - to combat the alleged negative effects of the high-tech system.

In May, Glastonbury - which has a population of 9,000 and which lends its name to the country's largest rock festival, staged on a farm six miles outside the town - became the first place in the country to have a free wi-fi network installed in its town centre. The £34,000 project is financed by county council and regional development agency funding,

At a public meeting to discuss alleged health problems in the Somerset town, residents complained of numerous symptoms including headaches, dizziness, rashes and even pneumonia.

Protesters claim that radiation associated with the wi-fi network suppresses the production of melatonin, a hormone which helps to control sleep patterns, regulates the body's metabolic rate and boosts the immune system.

One of those who claims to have been affected is Natalie Fee, a former yoga teacher, who has now moved home - from inside to outside the wi-fi zone - so that she can protect her son Elliot, five, from what she sees as the harmful effects of wi-fi.

"I would like to see the masts removed," she said. "Perhaps one day that will happen and hopefully it won't be too late.

"I had a radiation expert come round to take measurements at our old home which was within sight of one of the masts. The highest reading was in Elliot's room.

"I thought Glastonbury was a rural town. I don't want my son exposed to risk 24 hours a day, including at his primary school which is within the wi-fi zone. I would be failing in my duty as a parent if I did."

Matt Todd, who campaigns against EMFs, said that residents had complained that chakras and ley lines are being disrupted. "They believe positive energy flows are being disturbed," he said.

Mr Todd has started building small generators which he believes can neutralise the allegedly-harmful radiation using the principles of orgone science. The pyramid-like machines use quartz crystals, selenite (a clear form of the mineral gypsum), semi-precious lapis lazuli stones, gold leaf and copper coil to absorb and recycle the supposedly-negative energy.

"I have given a number of generators to shops in the High Street and hidden others in bushes in the immediate vicinity of the antennae. That way you can bring back the balance," said Mr Todd.

Orgone science was developed by the Austro-Hungarian psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich, who claimed all living matter contains a biological energy. Mr Todd added: "The science hasn't really got into the mainstream because the Government won't make decisions which will affect big business, even if it concerns everyone's health.

"I think wi-fi has tipped things over the edge because a lot of people can feel it. It seems to have introduced this large blast of energy into the environment and that's what people are picking up on."

Jane Saunders, who runs the Glastonbury natural health clinic, felt so strongly she founded the Why Wi-Fi? protest campaign. "I am not a Luddite and I recognise there are benefits to new technology," she said.

"Initially wi-fi was a development I welcomed with open arms, especially with teenage children who need to be on-line almost all the time.

"But I had to take it out and go back to a conventional broadband cable network because it was affecting my health. I show symptoms when it's switched on that I don't when the network is off."

David Heathcoat Amory, the local Conservative MP, said: "I have detected no public support for this project and I have received many letters and emails from concerned residents who believe the siting of the emitting masts are causing health problems."

A spokesman for Powerwatch, an independent EMF pressure group, said: "Someone using a wi-fi laptop will be exposed to approximately twice the level of radiation as someone living 70 yards from a mobile phone mast. Unlike the food and drink industry whose products have to go through extensive pre-market trials and testing, there is no safety net for wireless devices."

However, Dr Eric de Silva, a physicist at Imperial College, London, disagreed. He said: "All the studies which have so far concluded show there is no evidence of a connection between exposure to wi-fi and ill health."

A Somerset County Council spokesman said: "The project was established to support the local economy and encourage tourist and business visitors to stay longer and use local services.

"It has the potential to be a real asset. It conforms to all UK and EU telecommunications health and safety standards, but we do take public concerns very seriously and a review of the system is due to be completed in the New Year."

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An interesting article Neil!

Don’t you just wonder sometimes how the ‘experts’ or the ‘authorities’ have the gall to always be in denial of anything like this?

We could be talking about vaccinations for instance…’oh no – they’re safe.’ We could be talking about mercury fillings or pesticides, HRT, genetically modified food, I could go on…….

I have read countless reports of wi fi causing severe problems. But what I find tiresome now, is the audacity of these authoritarian figures allowing these practices and condoning them at the expense of our lives!

We know they are in denial because in most cases it is a vested interest and money orientated, but who are these people?

Do they have families that they care about? Do they care about their own health? Are they just ignorant???


Ann

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Namaste Ann,

What I found strange is that according to the article Glastonbury was the first town to be chosen for this kind of large wi-fi project. Why Glastonbury? It seems an odd choice to me. Particularly when I would have anticipated an adverse public reaction from many people there due to the perceived effects of EMF. I would have thought there would have been many people trying to block the project before it even got to this stage. So why make such a place your initial run of such an expensive project?

Part of me wonders however if it was exactly because of the higher awareness of EMF and the effects of subtle forms of energy that many folk in Glastonbury have that it seemed good to make this location the test site for such a wi-fi project. Probably no where else in the UK is there going to be an acute awareness of any negative effects wi-fi may have. So what better place to have a trial?

An interesting BBC Panorama article can be foundhere if anyone is interested. I'm trying to find this episode of the show again as I think many folk here would find it of interest.

Om Shanti
Neil

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The Government says there is no risk and is backed up by the World Health Organisation which is robust in its language saying there are "no adverse health effects from low level, long-term exposure".

Oh, then it must be alright then............duh

Too much money involved, too much power abused. Wait a few years and do the tests again, "oh no, can't be the wiifi that caused the cancer, must be something elso, the WHO said so"

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Source: The Telegraph, 7.01.09

Traditional lightbulb sales soar as customers stock up ahead of green switch over

Sales of the traditional incandescent lightbulb are soaring as customers seek to stock up before they are phased out in favour of green, energy-saving versions.

Some retailers have seen sales of the 100-watt varieties triple overnight, with buyers stockpiling by asking for hundreds at once instead of the usual 10 or 20.

Supermarkets and DIY chains are already running low on the bulbs, having begun to phase them out some months ago as part of a voluntary agreement with the Government. The light bulbs are expected to be scrapped altogether by September 2012, pending the outcome of a European Union vote on the issue.

Ministers claim the switch over to low energy alternatives will cut carbon dioxide emissions by around five million tonnes each year.

But there have been a raft of objections to the ban. Health campaigners claim the compact fluorescent light (CLS), the main energy saving bulb, can bring on skin rashes, epilepsy and migraines and because they contain mercury are difficult to dispose of, while many householders object to them because of their "strip-lighting" effect.

The combination of factors has led to panic buying of traditional light bulbs on an unprecedented scale.

Thelightbulb.co.uk, which provides to many leading companies as well as selling direct to customers, has seen its sales for last January almost matched in the first three days of January.

Patrick Hudgell, managing director of Lightbulbs Direct, which sells by mail order and over the internet, said that a ban was unnecessary and customers should be left to get used to energy-saving light bulbs themselves rather than be forced into using them.

"There are two camps here: those who love the concept of energy saving and those people who have tried a cheap and nasty energy saving light bulb one and are horrified by the thought it may be all they have in the future," he said.

"The reality is that there is a huge amount of choice and while we don't believe a ban is necessary, there's also no need to panic."

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Two good Canadian investigative tv piece (about 8 mins each) on the negative effects of compact fluorescent bulbs -

video 1

video 2

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Hi Neil, thanks for the links, really good. One thing, they are the same link, do you have the link to the other part?

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Namaste Jon,

Ah, I see what you mean.

Both of the videos are on the same page. The first is Rays of Rash, the second is Dirty Energy. I thought the second one was particularly good.

Om Shanti
Neil

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